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[Therak]

They're worried about getting blacklisted and losing sales.
Goodwill is important too

[Rashka]

I contacted the company I bought the items from. Still waiting for an answer, though.

[Umaua]

Doesn't matter here Therak, everyone does it the same way, so none gets picked on it. And they are too big that any aspiring smaller company could challenge them.

[Therak]

That sounds very bitter. In my experience goodwill isn't uncommon, word of mouth isn't a bad way to get costumers to pick you. If someone I know tells me to pick one company over another because if food experiences with it. that's more likely to swing me around then any commercial.
Good PR is important to most companies

[Umaua]

They got armies of marketin peeps to keep the PR good.

And if everyone does things as bad, then suuure. You can tell your friend about the company and avoid it. Then someone else tells how the other company is bad and how the company you think is better than this other one. Multiply this and the companies get both positive PR as negative.

As an example, the phone operators here. They are virtually identical on their practises...so the population treats them like cars, giving both positive and negative PR and bushradio news.

[Lars]

Umaua, do you know how you don't get the situation better?

Care nothing and do nothing since "Nothing will work". The attitude you seem to have here is what they want, apathy. "Dey suk, we can do nothin"

[Umaua]

Then you read wrong.

I am a realist not a cynic.

I do try to do anything I can against them, mainly raise awareness for people so they'd realize how badly they get (peep) by companies and people who are expects in economics.

[Therak]

Most successful companies are where they are because the costumers are happy with them. Happy costumers is a very valuable resource for any company.

[Regorn]

Meanwhile, Games Workshop keeps removing "awesome" parts of WH40K and adding "dur hur ultramarines!"

...and they are so successful they have never spend any money on advertisement ever.

[Umaua]

Yes well...happy customers can be ranked the same was as quality. Tools and customers are needed to only be of such quality that they just about work.

[Therak]

No, that would not work if they want to grow and make more money.  Just enough would prevent that growth.
I think you have a cynical and false view of how economics work.

[Umaua]

Oh I have slight bit cynical view of looking at economy sure. That comes from watching what businesses do, how they conduct the business. This from general news and business magazines, the company I work for and how especially experts explain economy workings to the public.

[Lars]

They tend to get away with it because most buyers are rather apathetic unless shit gets BAD.
Games Workshop is a glorious example. They do mostly crap, act like bullies whenever they can, and raise prices over and over. However, most players keep playing and paying.
So why should they act otherwise?

Same as ages ago with Modern Warefare: 2. Huge Steamgroup of "boycott because noe dedicated servers!"
Then the user page was FILLED with people playing it on release date.

If you're cynical with how companies act. Stop. Be ANGRY with how consumers act. If a company screws over a modern consumer they deserve it nine times out of ten.

[Regorn]

Not to talk about constant pre-order

[Lars]

Or people who talk about disliking DLC but always buying all of it.