Confession (important for all orcs)

[Kozgugore]

Note: If you only want to know of the situation at hand, skip my emotional yapping and read the last four paragraphs.

It's time for me to come clean. As you may have noticed, I've been very inactive ingame so far. I have two things to blame for that. The first and foremost are my exams which I (successfully) finished. The second is, here it comes, Age of Conan. I've been looking forward to the thing for at least a year now, and I couldn't resist picking it up. I bought it, I played it, I liked it. Now, that doesn't mean I won't have any more time to play WoW anymore, but there's another thing to it.

Since the moment I was promoted to officer, I've had practically no reason to play WoW except for the RP and this lovely guild. That's not a bad thing. It's just that as a hunter, I don't feel I enjoy any of the other aspects of the game. I'll gladly pay 13 euros to talk and RP with the friends I have in this game. Things have changed the past few months though.

I mean no offense to anyone, but for a long time, it has only been me who has been organising the things in this guild. Thing is, I didn't mind it at all. I loved it. In fact, I still like the responsibility. It's a nice learning process both IC and OOC. Thing is, though, this has made me experience the game more because I -had- to rather than -wanted- to. A lot of times, I would just log in, run around for a minute and then get bombarded with whispers, mails, etc. about a certain business, be it the Covenant, OotRB, the War Council or any random RP. The game slowly started to feel more like work than actually a game, because I was always expected to do certain things.

I gave you a wall of text of my current take on WoW so far. It's time for me to give you all the point I'm telling you all this. I'm considering quitting the game. I won't do it wholeheartedly as I still enjoy playing with you people, having all the responsibility and RPing in general, but paying both money and time on two MMO's will be too much for me to handle. I don't want to be considered a leader of a guild if I can't bring myself to make some spare time to log on every now and then to have a normal chat with every orc just for fun.

Thing is though, and I'll be perfectly honest here, I can't find anyone suitable to take over the guild leadership for the time being. At least while I'm playing AoC. I don't want to see OotRB slowly falling into decline due to inactivity and no events and leadership. I was always more of a fan of an honourable death at the peak than a slow, gloryless death at the bottom of the pit. I have every good wishes for OotRB, but I fear that should I grow inactive, the guild might (I'm not saying it will: it will all depend on its individual members) fall into decline and die a slow death.

Thus, we have two options, should I permanently leave the game (yes, it's an option I -am- taking into consideration, but keep in mind nothing is certain yet):
1) Keep the guild and hope for new orcs to stand up and take over the stick;
2) Disband the guild while it's still got a good reputation to live for and don't die a potentially slow death like, sadly, Dwarven Rifle Squad did.

Once again, nothing is certain yet. I'm still trying out AoC to see whether I actually like it or not, so it may just be a temporary thing. However, that doesn't take away the fact that the guild -has- turned quite inactive (from what I've heard and seen) since I semi-left. It feels like every week I stay away from my responsibilities in WoW, the guild loses another batch of active members. I don't want to force you people to a decision, but this is just the way I see things. Nothing is certain.

[Gorek]

Hmmm... I have to admit I have never considered myself an "active" part of the tribe. For me there have always been too many things that "come and go" since I moved to Ireland to involve myself too much in onlinegaming communities. My RL responsibilities, my crappy internet connection, my Job, my interests. I always knew that my presence in onlinegames was unsteady and I often had to take breaks for several months ( may it be a new girlfriend, the internet line broken or a more demanding shiftplan at work ), there was ALWAYS the possibility of something happening that would force me or make me want a break. And so for me it has been "join, take part in everything but don't take responsibility, because you possibly have to desert your position sooner or later".

But before my life has become so unpredictable I used to be guildleader/officer for several RP guilds in WoW and other onlinegames. And I know the situation all too well. Some guilds just NEED somebody to stir things up, to organize events to keep the guild alife. Not because the guild only consists of lazy sluggarts, but because people don't have the energy, are too shy or simply prefer to react instead of acting. And it is really a nasty situation when this person is you but you want/have to leave.

My advise is to take a break to see if you like AoC and pass leadership temporarely. Even if it seems that there is no one but you doing anything, this might change. There is always someone who will do something when "there is nobody else doing it". I think most gioldleaders did not step up and say "I want to lead", from my experience it is more something like "if nobody else can do it... okeeeee... *sigh*" and these people somehow manage to enjoy the job after some time

To disband the tribe is a too hasty descision in my oppinion, you should try to see if you can continue somehow first.

[Ugluhk]

errr... I feel really touched by this subject. I am one of those who was active once, or maybe not active... I was at many of the events and meetings the tribe had, but I didn't do any myself. There are reasons, one: I'm not a good organizer and two: I am uncertain at every event if I can come. I still feel like there is something I should do, but with Ugöûhk's death I feel rather... un-motivated. I also feel kinda drawn from the tribe after Uglûhk's death because of the response I got when I came back. OOCly the first comment was "/care". As was the second. Since then I haven't been playing with my char in the tribe. I have played on different chars, but I have always been on #redorc. All I can say is that the friendliness that once was, is no more. I think it is sad, and I think that I should have left the tribe around the time when Dogar and Tirnak left it. Or maybe earlier.

The choice is yours Koz, but maybe we should share the fate of The old Lordaeron. Let one little char be left in the guild that you never play on. the rest will be kicked. That is my sad opinion.

I will leave the #redorc for a while now, but still lurk the forums. Have...Fun? 

[Nergul]

Funny thing i have been thinking about the past 2 days.. i too can call myself a once active member, being online everyday and such.

And i started thinking when Koz was inactive for a week, and saw the RP/tribe/Activity going into somekind of hibernation, Ofcourse i too is to blame for this, not organizing events and such, but im not a planner and never will be (as my highblade period showed)

And just as Uglûhk i feel touched about this topic, since im a member of OoTRB for along time, and i have seen Tribe leaders come and go, but never had i the feeling of closing near the end of the Tribe...

Wich is ofcourse a shame, as there is plenty of material(history etc.) to form OoTRB into a vast clan of hundreds of orcs. (would there be that much proper roleplaying orcs)
Though, would it come to an end, i too would stand for the ''going out with a blast'' kind of ending, also looking at the Orcish lifestyle (My life for the Horde)..

I don't really know wether this post holds any value, but i simply felt i had to post in here..

[Drakash]

Dear Kozmang,

Your letter was stunning. As sad as it makes me, you should do what feels best for you. As for the other orcs, I'll make a poll. Answer it.

Short but beautiful,
Drakkimang, your firend.

[Greggar]

This..Is what I feared that would come..But sadly enough I kinda expected it..Look at my topic I posted about this.

Now I say that, many things are going on atm..
-Exams,
-Holidays comming
-Age of conan(biggest thing of this all)
-Real life
etc..

So I suggest we wait a little before judging and in the meanwhile, try a little to keep things going, like Mhokdor just did by organising this little event.

Unfortunately I myself can do little atm regarding exams..(great timing)
But I have many plans regarding rp when Wotlk approaches. And stuff before it.

If the red blade dies it isn't that much of a sting to me..As I would say we still got great people around. But the problem is, it are the people that dissapear.. And one of the reasons I like to play is you people.
So the most painfull to me is, to see people leaving. Or the next day when you come online, you never see that special name comming online again or suddenly a couple of 'friends' are missing in your friends list.

So IMO please don't do anything but wait till it's end of June or something. As then exams and such are over.
Because believe me that alot of guilds 'die' during holidays/exams (even on other servers)

So please don't die, or if it happens..Don't die when It's exams or when I'm gone..As the biggest pain is comming online, panicking where that tabard went to and suddenly see you're guildless and get 6 messages of: friend does not excist anymore. Without saying goodbye yourself.
Or: comming online and you notice: members in the guild: 32 of the once 100+ which you are the only real member of..And yet get messages friends are gone.

[Tirnak Lynxclaw]

Kozzle, you know I wont say I'm surprised, I've known this for a while now. And without being labelled as a traitor or whatever, I wish you all the best in what you decide to do. I know the game hasn't been actually that much fun to you for a long time. So.. Pick the obvious, and enjoy that choice to the fullest.

// Becky

[Gruulg]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*dusts of his desert eagle 750*       *cries*      *KABLAMMO!*

[Drakash]

<Mhokdor, seeing I misplaced my account password Drakash gave me the chance to respond on his account>

Koz, you 'spilled' some of this to me before, and I understand it all, but I'm asking you not to disband, to wait as Drakash has requested and see what can happen, the other forum of "Shall we keep going" has proven that many are ready to step up and do their best to keep the tribe in one piece.

Mhokdor.

[Kagmosh]

Koz! A shame to hear you're considering going off to AoC given all you've put into the guild over the last few months, but it's pretty understandable that you're sick of doing all the heavy admin work in a game you're getting tired of, having been in that sort of position myself a couple of years back.

As yourself and a bunch of others have mentioned, though, exams are a great big pain in the backside right now for a bunch of people, including myself, hence my not being logged in nearly as much as I want to be. Soo, I don't think it'd be entirely right to say that the guild's getting inactive due to the lack of RP events and the like, although it'd probably be  good idea to take a look at the state of things in a month or so's time once everyone's in the clear.

I know I've been slinking around in the background a bit for the last month or two but I'll see if I can't get back to organising a few things soon enough, just as I hope many other folks'll be stepping up to the plate as well.

Let's get to work!

[Hakon]

So please don't die, or if it happens..Don't die when It's exams or when I'm gone..As the biggest pain is comming online, panicking where that tabard went to and suddenly see you're guildless and get 6 messages of: friend does not excist anymore. Without saying goodbye yourself.
Or: comming online and you notice: members in the guild: 32 of the once 100+ which you are the only real member of..And yet get messages friends are gone.

Now, now, Koz isn't dying

Kozgugore, you did a stellar job leading the tribe. I have to say one thing; feeling obliged to do something in a game is never fun - and besides, the continued survival of ORB is not in your hands, but in all of the tribe's small green paws. So, yeah, do as Tirnak says.

[Akesha]

This may sound a bit harsh to some people, but here goes....

Whatever you decide Koz, it should be your decision alone. Please don't feel that you have any obligation or responsability towards the guild. I allowed myself to feel that I owed something to the members of the guild and that feeling caused me to stay long beyond the point where I was actually enjoying it. When I finally left it was not with regret and fond memories, but with a sense of relief that it was over.

Now that some time has passed, that feeling has gone and I can look back at all the good times that we had with the guild and feel a little bit of pride in the part that I played in creating the Red Blades. My one regret is that I did not leave earlier, when it was still fun.

The future of the guild must lie in the hands of all of its members. If Kozgugore does decide to leave, then it will stand or fall according to whether there will be anyone willing to take up the leadership. The guild is never the same after somebody who has played a big role leaves. It was not the same after Taktar left, it was not the same after Kad left, it was never the same after Rehbande, Varguhka and Oznack. That does not mean it was worse after each of them were gone, it was just different.

If Kozgugore leaves, then he is not deserting anything, rather he shopuld be thanked for having extended the life of the guild by many months ... and if you do stick with aoc Koz, then pm me here so we can hookup in Hyboria 

The day was always going to come when the guild would either wither away from lack of members or choose to disband. That much is certain. Whether that is the decision you face now, I honestly don't know. Only you orcs can decide that and I hope that whatever decision you make proves to be the right one for you all.

[Gruulg]

Hai Koz, swift hunting m8^^

You really made wow a nais game for me again with you grumpy ork trades, slighty morbide humor and your worg shrewd.
Have fun in the future in rl and ingamez^^

[Kozgugore]

http://orcsoftheredblade.com/forum/index.php/topic,1353.0.html

Consider this my official resignation. IC, Koz has been given a merciful death by Admiral Arador Dawnweaver, the leader of the bunch we faced at Theramore. He'll most likely think up a (creative) way to let you all know of Koz's death IC.

I'd like to thank you all for the great times in the guild. OotRB certainly is the best guild I've ever had the pleasure of being a part of in WoW. I could make a list of all the orcs I'd like to thank, but it'd simply be too big, so I'd just like to thank everyone ever part of the guild for making it the way it was for me. Keep in mind I'm not leaving WoW because I don't enjoy the guild or any of you people anymore: My time has simply come to call it quits. The only reason I sticked to WoW so long in the first place is because of this guild and its great people.

I'll certainly be around every now and then and if you're desperate for talks, it shouldn't be hard to find out about my e-mail adress. For those already playing AoC: I'm playing on the RP-PvP server Corinthia as an Aquilonian Guardian named Ramcroy. Watch out for a bearded brute who likes to chop up followers of Mitra and Set alike.

Nothing remains for me to say but to wish you all luck keeping this guild up and running and of course enjoying the game and its fun people. You and I will remain in touch if you so want it.

[Kozgugore]

That, and I'll just show you why I'll be sticking to AoC for now and what I'll be doing the upcoming few weeks. *cacklez*

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