WoW: Legion - Discussion

[Rashka]

I thought you guys might find this interesting aswell, Rogue Outlaw abilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb7kHG12Mnk

[Lars]

These are just a few things that make me go: Eh... I can wait. I do believe that Blizzard will try to go all-out on this expac since.. well.. looking at the rapid decline in subscribers during WoD for... reasons? (lel blizz sux) if they release another piss-poor expac, it'll be the end of WoW.

On this point, the decline in subs. I honestly feel that it's far more due to age of the game than anything else. Primary to any such things as story or amount of content.
If you look at subscriber graphs pretty much the entire "spike" that happened at the launch of WoD were lost by the next report and decline continued as before release with around the same acceleration. There's a small uptick around (what I assume) is the pre-patch. A spike at launch, and then after the spike an accelerated dip (compared to before the spike). I think the next area would be a slower loss but still consistent. As the point it ends on seem's to be in line where subs would have been without the expansion pack (maybe a bit higher).

With Legion I expect an uptick, and a spike. Smaller than from WoD. Then back to curve.

Nothing Blizzard can do will stop this. Aside from a full gameplay overhaul and engine overhaul. Which they might as well release a new game for.
I guess more and more people find the core game play to be boring now. And thus not worth paying for. So they stop playing. Everytime one person as that comes they set off a (slow) chain reaction.
MMO games thrive on community. If a person in that leaves it grows weaker. So people leaving because they find the game-play not worth paying for anymore might take others with them. People who stopped liking it ages ago, but stayed around for the people they played with. And so on.

In the face of this, no small changes Blizzard comes with will change this. Only slow it.

Even if I guess Blizzard will keep promising more and more since even if some developers have realized this. Marketing and Share Holders will not. And they will go "GIT DEM BACK!" and ignore the "It's impossible ..." only say "You had the numbers one time. Obviously it's possible!"

Hillariously enough, had SW:TOR or another "WoW-killer" released now they might actually have gotten a decently sized player base, if they played differently enough from WoW. Since more people might find leaving WoW an acceptable choice and thus switch more communities. (Since, whenever there's really been MMO-Migration, it's generally not been players, but communities doing it. (The guilds move would be quite a good example. Several people have occasionally moved server only to come back)).

[Grekthar]

Just looked through MMO Champion at the Class Order Halls as they are atm, and I am loving the looks of them Hope to see the Shaman one as soon as the Beta lets Shaman's play on the beta build.

Also

Spoiler: show

 The Monk Order Hall is on the Wandering Isle for the Pandaren XD I thought it would be the Shrine place up in Pandaria since thats where Monks can teleport to anyway, but now that I consider it, it makes a sort of sense for it to be on the Wandering Isle, since the giant turtle could park itself closer to the Broken Isles canonically.

Is the Priest one in the Exodar or WoD Draenor though? Love the Warlock and Demon Hunter ones with the demonic minions/slaves they have :3

[Grekthar]

For all our PvP enthusiasts in the guild, the Honor Prestige thing may hold some interesting stuff for you, especially for RP-PvP sakes.

One of the items you can acquire by going through this Prestige thing they're implementing, is a wearable faction banner, so you can run around on the battlefield with the flag of the Horde strapped to your back.

Along with a new black wolf version of the PvP wolf that has a banner strapped to its bum, that's a possible reward as well.

[Grekthar]

Who here's our resident combat/outlaw Rogues? One of the skins for your Artifact...

[Therak]

That's so big it has to be compensating for -something-

[Okiba]

It looks... oddly like Thunderfurry?   

[Bamm]

did someone say thunderfury blessed blade of the windseeker?

[Kozgugore]

Thunderfurry?

What you did there...



I see it.

[Wornag (Kronnor)]

Speaking of Legion, who else thinks this is going to be a deadly expansion for our tribe rp wise? Let's be honest, the Legion ain't no pushover like the Iron Horde.

[Okiba]

Thunderfurry?

What you did there...



I see it.

...good, because it was a genuine typo    (''''\ (o,,,,,o) /'''')

in other news, extremely happy with what i've seen coming with guardian druids, huge shift from hp/dodge/multistrike toward raw mastery, its lovely. plus a lot better Cd's.

How do you folks feel about your class changes?

[Srelok]

Surv hunter is a dream come true.
DK, I'll have to see.
Sham... eh... I dun get it.

[Kogra Windwatcher]

Will have to see about shaman really. Atm it feels like enhance is being screwed over, but we will have to see about that, with the whole maelstrom mechanic that is.

[Mozrogg]

Shaman always get screwed over, you should know this by now . They need to get rid of the clunky totem mechanics in my opinion and replace it with something that flows better yet keeps the class feel.

[Srelok]

The totems ARE the class feel apperently According to blizz. But they're overhauling the totem system AGAIN.