I'm gonna go ahead and say what i think, and i'd like to keep this as peaceful as possible.
Lately, we've been going down a steep hill, loosing memebers, loosing activity, and the overall mood in the tribe is really bad compared to our previouse state before mop. What is happening? What can we do it turn this into the right direction again?. I've been in the guild for three years soon, and i've not seen it so bad until today, i'm just a very concerned member trying to find out whats going on, and i know others are as well, i won't go ahead and mention names so they themselves can say what they wanna say from their perspective.
What i have in mind to increase activity:
Make 1 or 2 more officers, (Just to clear up, i'm not making this thread to try and rank myself up, thats not the point of this)
Reason: With more officers, comes events. With more officers more time to help out the lower ranks with their goals, aka making more activity and hopefully more events.
Make more ranks, i know when i roleplay i like to have a general idea of where i want to make my orc go, gives you a sense of progression.
Gives you a sense of progression, which will give orcs a reason to roleplay.
I'd like to see the old tutoring back, currently theres simply not enough events going to make the marks going out.
Gives tutors something to do, and could increase the overall creativity and therefor more events. Thats at least from my experince.
Any other ideas, i'd welcome whole heartly. Lets get this guild back to its former glory. Many thanks, from Grogona.
I totally agree with Grogona. I too see less activity within the tribe. I can understand that it's hard work for officers and especially Koz, so crate more officers doesn't sound like a bad idea. We have a lot of trusted members. For myself i'm in the final semester (or whatever it is called) on school and i'm working hard on exams and all. I mostly have time during day but it's hard for me to join events in the evening lately. but thats all just temporary. Also, everyone is allowed to make events for rp purpose. So if any one has some great ideas just do it and it will be fun. :)
Keep your chin up folks. You're part of one of the most well known, respected and successful RP Guilds on the server. The Guild got that way through dedication of it's members. Don't lose faith ;)
Yes, but we cannot be blinded :)
Activity IS dwindling, and we want to ressurect the activity.
It is true, however, it won't be permanent.
The guilds current story arc has us exiled from the horde, alone, in the wilds, and we only have a few active officers. so what? if you are active, make events, get involved. When the rebellion begins and the orcs can interact with other guilds again, things will pick up i guarantee :)
Koz has led this guild through ups and downs, so have faith in that. And i assure you, this isnt a first time thing, the guild has always had dips and rises. We will bounce back!
Yeah.
Also hoping patch 5.3 puts some orciness back into the tribe.
Too little orciness in here.
Quote from: Revax on April 14, 2013, 08:42:40 PM
Yeah.
Also hoping patch 5.3 puts some orciness back into the tribe.
Too little orciness in here.
Yes a thousand times, I'd love to see more orcish behavior to be honest. Honour above all things.
Quote from: Grogona on April 14, 2013, 10:14:14 PM
Quote from: Revax on April 14, 2013, 08:42:40 PM
Yeah.
Also hoping patch 5.3 puts some orciness back into the tribe.
Too little orciness in here.
Yes a thousand times, I'd love to see more orcish behavior to be honest. Honour above all things.
considering the near murder of a neutral tauren and the spying on the darkspear, some redemption and humble words will have to preceed any 'honour' :p
You better have the guild still up when I come back in... 4-5 years or so, or I force feed you all Yolks in the Spirit realm
Yes, I have longtime plans sometimes
that or lets meet up in an other game because... fun
But if you really need activity, poke me and I set you on a quest from the Spirit world, talking to the dead is cool orc'bro (aka: PM)
Quote from: Krogon on April 14, 2013, 11:32:23 PM
Quote from: Grogona on April 14, 2013, 10:14:14 PM
Quote from: Revax on April 14, 2013, 08:42:40 PM
Yeah.
Also hoping patch 5.3 puts some orciness back into the tribe.
Too little orciness in here.
Yes a thousand times, I'd love to see more orcish behavior to be honest. Honour above all things.
considering the near murder of a neutral tauren and the spying on the darkspear, some redemption and humble words will have to preceed any 'honour' :p
True, true. But still!
Well Im not leaving the tribe anytime soon :P
We cant forget some of our misfortunes are due to the ICly circumstance of being on the run, exiled from the Horde.
Well as for myself, i'm going to try and give in a hard attempt on my own, with events. I'll try to bring back things like weekly hunts, story telling, attempt to kick some rituals into the gosh'kars. All the kind of neat stuff.
I'm not sure what exactly has happened that made you feel particularly grim in the past few days, and hopefully I'll hear of it if it's been something of ill nature either ICly or OOCly that could harm people's mood like that, but I see, in part, what you're referring to. I wouldn't say things are terrible now, as we haven't lost a tremendous amount of members. Well, they haven't left the guild anyway - they have simply grown inactive for whatever reason. That could be due to busy school periods like Gromgeth said, or a lack of general interest post-MoP. Still, that doesn't have to warrant a lack of activity, and I'm sure things can be done about it. I wonder if that would be a surplus of officers though, as we have quite a few of those but none who continuously create events. Having said that, it's not a requirement for officers either. As mentioned before, any member in the tribe is allowed to create and host events, like Tazok plans to do with a small plot of his for some dragon-hunting as well. New events are always welcomed, be it officer or otherwise, don't you worry about that!
As far as tutors are concerned, that could possibly be due to a lack of New Blood as well. We haven't had all that many new members as of late, but at the same time, we haven't had any great amount of events that could warrant a chance to earn a mark of the tribe as well, so receiving a mark through tutoring is still quite the viable option; people just need to remember to engage one another for the tutoring RP in order to get them.
Personally, I don't feel like exile or at least the current circumstances of the tribe shouldn't be much of an excuse for tremendous inactivity or worsening conditions. Sure, it makes things a little harder to organize, like keeping things interesting when you're on the run and have no Horde settlements that you can sit around and RP at with others, but it does offer other chances (like plots, unique situations, events, etc.) as well. Not to mention the usual saying, as it goes: RP is what you make of it. You shouldn't always have to wait for others to create RP, but create windows for it yourself if it's something you're actively looking for.
And there is the problem as far as I'm concerned on Koz: I feel partially responsible for the change of situation. For some time now, I haven't been feeling all too interested or motivated to log on to him, or let alone WoW itself. I used to be able to log on for the sake of RP and find joy in it (WoW itself had quite little to offer me aside from the RP for a long time now), but with some of the people/orcs gone now that I used to rely on for my personal RP, it's all sort of falling apart for my character. All I log on for is to organize events, in which he's demonized because of the whole 'leader of a worsening tribe on the run'-thing going on as well (and no, I don't believe it's a matter of 'redeeming honour', as that's merely something one orc is trying to enforce upon us). That doesn't mean I'm not interested in at least hosting events any more, but I admit they might not be as often or as inspired as they used to be. More often I find myself looking at my subscription and wondering if it's still worth spending precious moneys on, and the tribe has been the only reason to stick around in WoW.
Other options we -could- always explore go back to the topics that have been discussed prior to MoP in times like these: Realm transfer or opening the tribe up. A realm transfer is still something I get the feeling too few people would have an interest in, and opening the tribe up to other races would mean revamping quite a few things, among which our culture, and still wouldn't guarantee an influx of members. After all, the initiative we took to offer non-orcs to travel and RP with us hasn't been overly successful either. Still, I'd be open for both suggestions should there prove to be enough interest and need for it, but I'm simply not sure if this is the time for it yet.
Guilds do go through their up and downs, I've seen the red blades in worse state then this.
From what I see, much of the inactivity can be placed at the feet of alts, and real life in general. Aswell as other games.
As said, RP is what you make of it, and sometimes you need to remember that just because you don't see it. Doesn't mean the RP isn't there. And sometimes a simple "I feel like RP, anyone up for it?" can set something up.
If you only rely on officers to make events for you. The events will be fewer, best way to get a lively guild is when events come up naturally.
And quite honestly Grog, there's been several casual RP events where you've been doing other things. Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to throw things around about RP being dead when you're sitting out, or even leaving events shortly after they begin.
Then there's always the RP that doesn't need to include everyone. Make something of it, turn it into something fun. Train someone in something, let someone teach you something. Get some people together to gather something you need.
Well what active officers are there. Rargnasha, yourself for events, and.....?
Current officers still active are myself, Rargnasha, Karak and recently Vashnarz and Mozrogg. I know that might not sound like a lot, but there were more in the past few months and they're not by any means required to organize events. What I mean to say is, it's not exclusive to officers anyway. In fact, officers are more often than not promoted -because- they created events to help the tribe, or at least in some other way by which they have proven themselves to be eligible for the rank (i.e. training, tasks, admirable behaviour, etc.). Perhaps the reason there aren't that many (active) officers a lot of the time is exactly because there are few organizing events.
Having said that, I'm not saying people -have- to create events, even if they want to become an officer. I'm just saying it would greatly increase their chances as well.
Oh yeah forgot about Karak
Well as i said at first, i was just very concerned and i wanted to suggest what -i- thought would change things in the better direction.
As of me not attending events? Not sure where you've gotten that from in the past three weeks i've been at every event.
Well, none of us intended to shoot down any ideas as far as I can tell. Any kind of feedback is quite welcome at any time, or we wouldn't have topics like this one (http://orcsoftheredblade.com/forum/index.php?topic=2862.0) either. Any ideas or input is encouraged any time, whether people agree with it or not.
Well, i'll put them up there, i must admit i didn't see or consider that there'd be such a thread! :)
This post is almost a copy of past posts.
This has happened more than once and it always seems to happen after a big game add-on.
Right back to the very first one Burning Blade.
People logged on with the “I MUST HAVE THE PURPLE GEAR†or Purple fever as we knew it then, attitude and then when they have got it decided what else was there.
So they ether joined a new group where they could use them items in dungeons etc.
Or they gave up WOW because as far as they were concerned they had completed the game.
And it seems it is still the same to this day.
Well the answer is RP you would not be on the realm if that is not what you wanted would you?
Or have those days gone now as well boy I’m getting old.
I myself have not been fully active within the tribe for well over a year now, but I have always been online with my Toon at least 2 -3 times a week.
Watching and doing my own thing.
The amount of times I have stood next to another Blade and they have just completely blanked me is unbelievable.
Also the amount of times I have turned up at events only to move on because of the lack of inclussion.
This would never of happen in the past , and before you say why have you not spoken to them, well that comes down to my Toon and how I have played her from day 1 not that is many here now who would even know her.
And it would take too long to write down her make up here but she is a sweet girl when you get to know her. (What was that Koz). :o ;D
May be my own fault.
But any way I move from the point I'm trying to make RP is the Blades and any situation can be RP.
If you see a Blade you do not know then just say “I know the colours but I do not know the face who are you†and there you go your RP’ing.
I can understand and in fact know where Koz is coming from I have had many hours talking / arguing with him about the same thing many times over the years. :o :-X :-*
So what I’m really saying is just stay at it but try to get out of the little sub groups that seem to be around now.
Mix it up.
You are ALL Blades and the best RP is the unplanned RP.
The orcale has spoken. 8)
P.s.
I have said this before not to long ago in the thread that Koz is refuring to second post down .
COUGH.